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Why not include nuclear as clean energy?
Watch a video called Death By Design. It's about the electronics Industry and how bad it is on people and the environment while making Electronics. Until the electronics production industry can be cleaned up renewable sources providing electricity let alone the coal industry spewing radioactive materials no one talks about and the obvious combustion products people do talk about electric cars will not be our savior. I will immediately back up this statement by saying electric vehicles are what we need. As I previously said in another post I was building electric go karts as a 7 year old 57 years ago.
It doesn’t matter if they are worse for the environment it’s about not being oil dependent and the Saudis not holding the world to ransom anymore.
News flash: both carbon and oxygen are on the periodic table of elements
Put them together as CO2 and it’s still not pollution, it’s what trees use to produce oxygen
What you need to be concerned about is the carbon Monoxide from car exhaust, that’s more pollution than carbon dioxide
What is the life span of electric vs ice... what the serviceability? Ice cars can be fixed and keep going. Electric is locked out and isn’t repairable. Car has an issue? Buy a new one...
The future was not electric cars but hydrogen!
"I HOPE"?? I thought "science" proved that the EVs would be better for the enviroment ....
Until you have to replace the battery pack in the electric car....
Windmills and solar are not carbon neutral
nice video - wind and solar still have a decent carbon footprint
Man what frame rate do you film at like 10 not even 30
These "fees" for EVs will only grow more expensive.
https://www.ncsl.org/research/energy/new-fees-on-hybrid-and-electric-vehicles.aspx
how can an electric car powered from electricity originating solely from coal powerplants be better than similar combustion engine one? it does not make sense because first you have more co2 during manufacturing second you have coal first mined then turned into electricity then transfer via grid then power the battery. it seems like coal is mined itself and crude oil is the only only one creating emissions.
They need to use graphene batery
Actually the electric grid was collapsing in California (Commifornia) last summer so even if places where there is “sustainable” energy it has not proven able to maintain the demands of their population’s electricity consumption.
You said but didn't explain that plastics are made by fuel which makes the casing for the battery for they car plus the fuel needed to make the car steal and aluminum also fueled vehicles needed to mine so no matter what your using fuel to make the electric car
I find ICE vehicles disgusting, including their sound - it's a farting transportation.
interesting, people also was saying no to ICE engines because they liked steam power sound more?
What about a nitro methane future?
Two words. Range Anxiety
The batteries in most EVs are extremely TOXIC and have FLAMMING electrolyte fluid in them.
CO2 is NOT toxic or a pollutant!
Just ask your plants...
More CO2 please ???????????
Forgot to mention how solar pannels and wind turbines are built
The fact that a car can be MOSTLY recycled into other things or a newer car vs lithium battery not being able to be recycled makes a terrible impact on the environment. They turn into toxic waste that won't dissappear in our lifetimes. So in the long run, the EVs are bad.
Being a software engineer I can say AI cannot replace human instinct. e.g if a car sees a pedestrian stationary waiting on the edge of the road it cannot predict whether he will cross road or not. So all fuss about self driving is far from possible from a developer perspective yet or a long time from now. These stupid drivers are just surfers on the ocean of their stupidity ?
And anything electric faults and fails so much more than anything mechanical I’ll stick to my real car that is actually dependable you guys can drive in those over engineered turds ?
REAL EFFICIENCY OF Electrical Vehicles vs GAS-POWERED VECHICALS H.VIVAT P.Eng. M.Sc. Auto-transport & mobile equipment Toronto. Feasibility study.
That article discusses efficiency of Electric car. (EV) Electric vehicle market share globally is 2.65%.
Energy to power EV comes from an Electrical Grid. So far, most of the world energy is converted from fossil fuel, nuclear and renewable. Next I will find the Total Efficiency of EV and gas-powered vehicles using the ‘’Apple to Apple approach’’. -The Total Efficiency of EV is a sum of two components: EV car efficiency plus the efficiency of energy supplied by Electrical Greed: “Power plant-to-wheels”
-Total efficiency for gasoline-engine car has only one component: “Gas tank – to -wheels”.
On average, gasoline is producing 124000 BTU per gallon , when #4 fuel oil is producing 141000 BTU per gallon A Coefficient of 141000/124000 = 1.137 will be added in EV efficiency calculation.. The cost of those two products are taken as equivalent as both are by-product of refinery process. Power plant efficiency running on oil is 0.40; It happened to be the same value as the average world efficiency of power generation (coefficient of 0.40)
Calculating the sum of Total efficiency of the EV based on average world numbers: “Plant-to-wheels”:
1) Total efficiency of all electrical average power plants in the world is 0.40
2) Efficiency loss of transporting electricity thru’ the electrical grid (power lines, transformers) are 7% 0r 0.93. 3) Efficiency loss of electrical car battery is 10% loss when is charged. So charging efficiency is 0.9;
4) Efficiency loss of an electrical car battery when discharged is 10% or 0.9;
5) Efficiency loss of an electrical battery when temperature fall below -10 c is 0.6
For calculation we will take 0.85 (not everywhere and not all the time is winter.)
6) Efficiency loss of 15% of electrical power for heating up the car or cooling off (air-condition/heater) coefficient is 0.85
7) Mechanical efficiency: transmission (not so complicated as at mechanical car) and all other moving parts including the wheels are only 0.90;
8) Finally efficiency of an EV electrical motor is 0.93
9) Battery efficiency for 4-5 years old battery is 0.75 (Battery life is 8-10 years). In all published work EV testing provided with a new battery? (4 years older battery with 100000 km should be used)
10) EV “Charging convertor’’ from AC to DC, comes with 0.95 efficiency.
NOW WE CAN CALCULATE THE TOTAL EFFICIENCY OF ELECTRICAL CAR, BASED ON THE WORLD DATA:
0.40 x 1.137 x 0.93 x 0.9 x 0.9 x 0.85 x 0.85 x 0. 90 x 0.93 x 0.75 x 0.95= 0.148 in most of the studies the EV efficiency is calculated for the range between idle to 100 km/h when only in very few studies you may find that additional energy of 25% more than gasoline car is required to rich the speed of 120-140 km/hour. That means that efficiency on higher speed will drop. But those losses will be compensated by the higher loss of energy at the gas-powered car during idling and slow parking.
Conclusion: based on the world fossil fuels usage for both cars the calculated efficiency is: for EV = 0.148 for Gas-powered Car = O.170. It looks that gasoline powered car is a bit more efficient device than EV. However those results are theoretical and it is based on the average efficiency by world power plants and it’s done by using similar oil based fuels. The same EV charged by renewable, hydro, nuclear would not emit CO2 and would have different efficiency based on the fuel used by the Power Plant. Disadvantages of EV car are great, starting from the initial cost, batteries, additional weight of 1000 lb., charging time ( fast charging may ruin your battery) and etc. (See Ref 2.) One of the most important PROS of EV is reduction of the LOCAL and partially of total pollution. Based on above calculation, actual CO2 pollution produced by non-fossil fuel should be the main concern of making the right decision what car to buy. For example in Ontario 71% of electricity is generated by non-fossil fuel. Remaining 29% produced by fossil fuel. However, that amount is responsible for 51% CO2 emission (Calculation, see page3). Based on that information, EV in Ontario can be assumed as a vehicle operated by 51% fossil fuel and 49% by renewable and nuclear; it will produce half CO2 as gas-powered vehicle. For that condition a” PLAG IN HYBRID” would be a better choice than EV.
Total worldwide electricity production consists of 27% renewable, 10% of the nuclear energy and 63% of fossil fuel. 37 % of non-fossil fuel consist from 11% of renewable from ‘’other sources”, 16% of hydro build 10-70 years ago and 10% of nuclear. It took more than 20 years to get to 11% generation of by “other resources “. The new ‘’dream project’’ is to convert remaining 63% of fossil fuel generation to renewable for 20 -30 years. Entire Electrical Grids would be completely rebuilt and also expended to generate additional electricity to operate EVs. 6 out of 8 billion peoples are inhabitants of the relatively poor countries. They would not be able to contribute funds for such project. All western countries are responsible for 25% CO2 emission. For the next 20 years a HYBRID vehicle would be a better choice. Plug in Hybrid car is more reliable with lower CO2 emission.
EV battery consists of 7000 round small batteries. EV battery is very expensive to produce and dispose. EV Battery last about 7-10 years or 200000 km with a loss of the capacity to 0.6 on the end of battery life. (See ref #2). Cost of the EV battery is 12000 CAD. In the future EV market will be divided by two groups: one being able to afford a new expensive EV and another group would be left to buy a used EV with replaced auto market battery. The life of the car body shall withstand 20 years in adequate condition.
CONCLUSION:
My TAKE for the future of auto transportation is: The larger part of transportation sector should be taken by HYBRID vehicles, next it will be shared by EV vehicles. The rest will be left for vehicles with high efficient gas-powered engines as well. However in some countries the last approach could be reversed. Gasoline distribution stations are already in operation. New construction of electrical charging stations will become a very high expense. Replacing and upgrading of high voltage power lines, reconstruction of previous and adding new transforming stations would be part of that task.
-------Crude Oil Production is one of the most important necessities. As a result, the initial refined products are responsible for production of 6000 essential various products. Starting from asphalt, bitumen, jet engine fuel, plastic, drugs and so many others that it is not possible to list them all; only 40% as a by-product is gasoline. It should be used up! One of very feasible usage would be fuel for Hybrid cars and for high gas efficient vehicles.
In spite of all difficulties auto industry is trying to persuade that EV is one of the best solution to reduce world CO2 emission. It could be true if the world electrical grid would be converted to non-fossil electro generation. As a result of it ,politicians together with auto industry are keeping potential EV consumers in the dark , and constantly bombarding them with the false information .
All calculation are made without adding of 9-12 metric ton of the CO2 emission as result of manufacturing the lithium-ion batteries. REF# 4
Yes we forget about crude oil extraction, processing and transport while calculating these comparisons. But are we considering the remains of the decaying toxic batteries laying on land fields? What will happen to the decaying battery after 80 years from now?
The government should give you 10 solar panels and a wall power pack with your EV purchase lol. I'm worried about the waste when the batteries are done.
Ev vs diesel? And I mean 1to1 so ev semi vs diesel semi, ev light truck vs diesel light truck, ev car vs diesel car, ev motorcycle vs diesel motorcycle. I know that the klr650 diesel gets 96mpg at 55mph so there may be a foothold there for diesels, at least for the bikes
Everybody is talking about EV's but nobody is talking about the mess and contamination the lithium batteries are going to cause to the planet, oceans and water we drink when they stop working. Please make a video about it.
Not so sure some power grids can handle it
does not take into account ev needs battery replacement and disposal of battery
10:09 I do not believe you. Adding more electricity draw adds a need for increased production to maintain uninterrupted service. Just because we make 100 units and normally cap at 95 units of use doesn't mean we have 4 spare units to be taken up by evs. We need a gap.
Im about to use this to write a essay
Battery replacement should be factored into the lifespan of an EV
PV Solar and wind turbines are not reliable sources of electricity. Lithium and cobalt are finite materials, in itself will become a scarce material, therefore driving up cost.
You forgot to talk about how solar panels and windmills and etc. are made. To make solar panels, you need to mine coal and quartz, thus creating even more CO2. Also, windmills need to be made with extremely heavy machinery that uses massive amounts of oil and gas. Even after all of this, solar pannels and windmills struggle to make almost any energy, and gas is just so much more efficient. On top of this, people will not buy the millions of gas cars that are built, leaving all of the waster materials to rot. This means that all of these precious materials (steel, alluminum, etc.) will just be wasted. Overall, There is no true way for electric cars to save the environment. There is no existant power source that works 100% clean. Nuclear power plants are the closest thing we have right now, but energy plants will not be willing to part with their pretty pennies in order to swap to nuclear.
Driving the car is still better for the environment than walking. I know most people want to bash my head in for saying that but its actually true. See if you had to walk the same distance as you drive every year you'd take many days to complete your trips and being alive itself results in emissions, you need food you need infrastructure, you need warmth electricity etc etc etc and you also emit co2 yourself. Not only that, running actually increases your calorific needs. The perfect person for the environment would not go to the gym, would never walk anywhere and always choose a bicycle for short distances and a car for medium distance, would refuse to use polluting trains, would carpool and would take flights for longer distances, be a woman because women eat less, not so any mentally tough activities because that would increase calories burned... and so on, you get it. Oh no now people will be mad at me, "are you insane planes pollute much more than trains" well yes but actually no, see trains need super much infrastructure and that actually pollutes quite a lot. planes need a lot less infrastructure and are actually incredibly fuel efficient and can take a very direct route.
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The answer is to make co2 cars.
After watching this video I think we can all agree on something. We need to increase the amount of slave children to make new batteries super cheap, I mean it's good for the environment. If you disagree you are just a bad person
Once electric car technologies become cheaper the only reason to own a gas car is the noise. Electric cars can be more powerful for less weight and get much better torque than gas cars. Also drifting with only tire noises is just next level cool
Technically the max grid power distribution could support one quarter of the EVs tomorrow.
Though I did enjoy this video, you should really put your sources into the description so people can check your them.
better or worse, at lease ev cars don't smell so bad.
You can't drive as far on an EV that you can on a gas or hybrid vehicle.
I need to ask. Does any of this take into account, battery changing ?
Saves us about $4000.00 per year in fuel and maintenance costs alone.
Now factor in battery replacement over the life of the a electric vehicle
The long run does not account for the recollection relocation disassembly and repourposing of the energy containers.. Does it?
Problem has never been EVs thats why you have railed electrics and elevators since forever.. problem is energy storage.
I wish I could afford an EV... Until then, 1.5 Honda will have to do
How about on the grand tour when they crashed that electric super car the batteries continue to re-ignite for DAYS later
The funny thing is that they're just as bad as petrol cars, the electric from the charging points comes from huge power stations that does out just as much if not more pollution than a petrol car
I’m not sure this is counting replacement batteries
It maybe that simple in California, but in parts of the world where it gets cold, or where more range is needed, electric vehicles aren’t nearly as clear of a shoe in. Right now it’s -30C here in Alberta, and batteries don’t do well in that sort of temperature. Thankfully the battery only needs to start my car, not sustain is running in this sort of frigid ass temperature.
Forgot Myth number 3. Co2 being a greenhouse gas. Number 4. Man is destroying the atmosphere. Number 5. The batteries don't get replaced every 5 years. (They dont like -20 and colder). Number 6. Minnesota is supposedly going all electrics in 2035 and our own electric companies already said they can't produce enough. (Most of our green energy goes west like Iowa).
You say you're not part of an agenda. You probably think that. But you believe the lies and going along with it. That's the problem. The lies.
Guy with a Diesel Generator going to come save your A*S when you run out of charge
Rich countries say they are building a better world while poor countries end up having drought,famines,cancer etc. Seriously shitheads, saving a WORLD that only consists of you , costs lives of many vulnerable people.
But but but, on average, 2/3rds of electricity production is made by fossil fuels - most of which is dirty coal (google it). So I'm sorry but your theory is up in smoke.
Nuclear power.
Biggest problem for the oil part is we send most if ours over seas to be refined and shipped back. Not good.
Imma just say no Cali couldn't take that many more EVs tho they usually charge at night when ppl are sleeping just saying (and btw nuclear could be one of the most efficient electrical producers)
Ya solar wind and hydro electric have zero impact on the environment....don't forget almost everything you touch comes from oil in one way or another ...
But wind/solar power plants don’t produce enough power efficiently and require large plots of land and each one needs a back up fossil fuel power plant. And there’s many many MANY more reasons why wind and solar suck for powering the grid... so no, an EV only would be less impactful on the environment if powered by fossil fuels or coal because renewable energy is actually far worse for the environment
Is the sale of ICE cars and on the road going to be banned by 2040?
You just skimmed (glossed over) the damage to the environment the electric companies that POWER "zero emission" cars cause. No matter whether it's coal, gas, or nuclear, it launches crap into the sky 24/7. How do you guys not KNOW that??
Also, your we dream of clean energy like solar and wind are at a sadly laughable state. They can barely power a microwave. And many of us have driven by dorment ones.
I hate car exhaust too, but listening to a bunch of climate change wack jobs ain't gonna solve any problems.
Educate yourselves and THINK.
the dirty secret of the electrical industry - SF6 insulation is a greenhouse gas 23,500 times worse than carbon dioxide and its emissions are increasing rapidly due to green energy
I saw a meme that shows a gasoline-powered generator charging a Tesla. Well, I think we all go back to the old style of fuel after all
LED light bulbs have already done more to reduce raw energy consumption, environmental pollution, and climate change than EV’s ever will. Maybe we're all focusing on the wrong thing?
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I understand The US power Grid Can Handle the influx of EV cars What about the rest of the world I am from South Africa Where our power grid cant keep our lights on During summer Let alone winter. Here This is always been my argument And Here We still do not know how too efficiently Dispose of these Battery's so what will happen to them? Landfill!! So If we all lived In the Perfect world A EV would Be Great However Most 3Rd world country's not so Great.
Sorry bro you done a little mistake don't take into account environment footprint of coal or in us case natural gas mining
Over the lifetime of an EV, its battery pack will have to be replaced multiple times. Was replacement battery production factored into lifetime emissions.
You should probably look into how green, "green energy" actually is.
Nuclear is a far better energy solution than wind or solar.
Beautiful topic
Can you please do a video on the EV 1 by GM and why they did a total recall
James you forgot even when you said it to make a car you need steal rubber and plastic that you didnt account for so the electric car is already populating the same amount before the car is even made plus takes away water and we will be using more plastic on a electric car then a gas one to make cases for all the batteries plus the waste and the way plastic cant really decompose
I'm sorry to disagree but where did you get the information that an electric car running on coal energy pollute less than a combustion car running on gas? Besides, you don't take in consideration the replacement of old batteries (10 ton eq. CO2) every 4 years, the spare energy lost in transmission, and the possibility that the combustion car runs in renewable fuels, like biodiesels and ethanol, which are almost 100% renewable resources.
CO2 is not as bad for the enviroment since plants use it. Oil is a natural product as in, it come from the ground and even the worst oil leaks ever are less catastrophic on the enviroment than the heavy elements used to make batteries..
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That is why...are forefathers have said...be balanced...we should use everything in balance...
Hydrogen may eliminate these large battery issues. And let's be real, climate change will happen with or without co2 emissions from man. We were supposed to have all died from climate disaster every 12 years for the past 40 years, according to certain politicians concerned with consolidation of power, from us to them. And bro, windmills can't even produce enough power to pay for their own production! ;)
Did you know CO2 is the gas of life? Plants needed to live and produce for us the more CO2 that's out there the bigger the plants that grow in the dirt get...
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The answer is diesel.
Human rights violations but we won't talk about that.
Didn’t take into account the materials to create the solar panels and wind mills.
Didn’t also take into account the huge expanse of Land required for those energy sources how it affects wild life and vegetation.
Hopefully Nuclear is the solution. But if you don’t allow 3rd world and Middle eastern nations access to nuclear.. then what climate are we saving ?
Great f**** vid!!! That's it. That's my comment.
In a parallel universe, every house and apartment complex has its own diesel engine to power the generator for their electricity.
Delivery of the fuel is piped in via city wide plumbing networks but most people have it delivered or picked up from their local fuel station filled by mega tankers driving all over the country.
Imagine the mess, costs and impact of mining copper or making environmentally unsound plastic materials needed to protect the families from the electrical currents in that network exposed to the general public. That's a crazy amount of wires everywhere going to one central location. Impossible!
I know, it sounds crazy to imagine their paradise; we can only dream that one day we may be so lucky.
Electric cars are not going to solve Climate Change we all Know.
I knew this would be a biased video
(before you read this just know I love electric vehicles)a lot of this info was bias to make ev's look better. when sitting in traffic idling ev's are much more efficient but in reality where a lot of cars are not sitting in traffic they aren't much worse than ev's for emissions. and on top of that that is assuming that the ev is in perfect condition in the right temperatures. In somewhere like canada ev's are far FAR worse, gas cars are very effitiant as they dont loose any power in the cold, they use the excess heat from internal combustion to heat the cabin, and the batteries dont die for no reason. Ev's in canada or other cold places are garbage for a few reasons, thier batteries ca loose up to 50 percent charge in one night which instantly doubles thier emissions, they batteries are slowly damaged in the cold which speeds up the aging process of the batteries and recycling them is very hard, and on top of being very inefficient and breaking down all the time they still have to use battery power to heat the cabin and power the lights and everything else which makes them use even more power, in any conditions batteries only last at absolute max 1000 charges even if they are in absolute perfect conditions, most people only get 500 charges before the battery breaks or in cold climates as low as 300. in the end if you have a controlled climate ev's are more efficient but in real life where most places get too cold or have temp changes a lot ev's are very bad. and I LOVE ev's as electronics is what I am pursuing and is my biggest hobby so I know the upsidess and downsides but it just isnt the time for widespread ev's. and all of this is quite dumb considering there isnt any evidence of man mad climate change being real other than a few left funded sources that have many contradictions of the same page.
Cars powered by farts ? the future is among us
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